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If you have had a vehicle registration request refused and one of our
documents is involved, please read below.
We are a
research company
and our primary duty on each paid service is to present
researched information to you about your vehicle. The
purpose
of our service
is to present our researched information to you, the service
buyer. The product, when the product is a EUROCERT ICOC Conformity Certificate, is a written report stating
researched information about your vehicle.
Its purpose is to
furnish you with a hard copy of the key facts and type approval,
if applicable/relevant. Beyond the delivery of this service and
product it is up to you, the document holder and vehicle owner,
what you use the document for. We do not offer any guarantees
about any uses you choose or make any promise about what its
issue may lead to. We do offer free advice and after-sales
support but we cannot be held responsible for frustration and
losses resulting from a chosen use of one of our documents.
Spainj, France and other Western
European [EU] countries
If you go to a Prefecture in France or a similar office anywhere
in Western Europe, to register your vehicle that was previously
registered within the EU (any EU country, and others with any
special legal agreements like EEA) - you need your UK V5C or any
other EU member state vehicle registration document.
Presentation of your vehicle registration document along with
a summary of the vehicle's key EU registration facts, including
type approval number if applicable (our
Independent Certificate of Conformity) is - legally - all you
need.
Legally, there is no other document or test required, as per EU
law (EC directive number
2007/C68/04). In practice, for the vast majority of the
time, the process goes smoothly and the registration is
accepted. The officer will type the information from our
document and your registration document in to a computer portal
that actually requires very limited information (all of which is
presented on our document). Note: our document and your registration
document must match on key data sections.
If your vehicle was registered in an EU country WITHOUT a type
approval number (eg. in the UK, through an IVA test, or because
it simply wasn't written on the registration document at the
time of registration), even though we may present a type
approval on our document, the registering officer may ask you to
undergo an additional local test regarding EC road compliance.
In this instance our document is still good to book that test,
and may have other uses for you in the future (e.g. toll roads,
further registrations, sale of vehicle, etc.).
Fact: our
documents, with, and sometimes even without, an accompanying
registration document, are accepted all over Europe, on a
regular or daily basis. We have many many repeat customers, trade
customers (car dealers and sellers) and many ongoing
recommendations, even from car manufacturers, such as TOYOTA.
Limitations: unfortunately, it has become very
clear to us that in France, where most of our customers are,
many officers and Prefecture clerks view transactions as
personal transactions. This causes problems from time to time.
Our own experience is also that French bureaucrats can sometimes
be difficult for no apparent reason and even when the law and
procedure is on the side of the 'client'. It is also the case
that sometimes in France, and Spain, and elsewhere, the officers
cannot work the PC input system properly and repeatedly ask for
additional information. Or different information. If this has
happened to you we sincerely regret your situation but please
accept that this is not our fault. We provide researched and/or
verified information on documentation that has been tried and
tested and is supplied in accordance with the law. We also make
a special effort to tune our documents in to the operating
portal used. There is no need for any additional
information (such as length of vehicle) which is not required
for a registration.
Common errors by staff in administrative offices in
Spain, France and elsewhere: (1) The D2 field does not
have enough characters, has too many characters, won't go in the
computer, contains asterisks or special characters -
The D2 field on the portal is not obligatory and can contain
'NON DISPONIBLE'. The operator can skip this field and in fact
it is not legally required. In the UK blanks for D2 is perfectly
acceptable. We do not know why this field causes so many
problems among PC operators in France. Commas (say "pas de
virgule") do not seem to help matters.
(2) In Spain there seems to be a (rare) tendency for officers to
try and 'sell' a report by a local engineer instead of accepting
our document or similar from similar companies to us. We
think this may be discriminatory or slightly opportunist. it is not
in the spirit of the EU and may not be legal, by EC law. It
should be dismissed by the registrant and a fuss made.
3) In Spain, France and Portugal, an administrative clerk will
sometimes take one look at the client and one look at our
document and the V5C and say 'NO', 'you have to go to the
manufacturer', or other things. This is due solely to
inexperience and, again, though we sympathise with your
situation, we cannot endure this and under no circumstances will
we consider this any fault of ours. We cannot become involved in
personal disputes between clients and administrative officials.
At the end of the day, they are in charge and their decision
goes.
4) In Spain, if using our document to help book or initiate a
vehicle test at an ITV centre you may be asked for section 50
and 51 information. This refers to information on the original
CoC from the manufacturer. However, we cannot make any sense of
this. 51 is about exemptions.
We hope that if you have suffered a rejection, you may be able
to go back and ask exactly what the problem is and get clear
answers. If we can modify our document or write a supporting
letter we will. Otherwise, please accept our sympathies and
consider that our document may and probably will have future
uses, like when you come to sell the car, or for use in toll
systems, or re-register again,
etc.
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